Penelope Warland born 1738 / John Place - Links with Australia
Note: Some of the information on this page was provided by Jennie Andrews in Australia.
Penelope Warland (1738 - ?) was the daughter of Robert Warland (1694 - 1758) and Ann King (1701 - 1784). (See link for names of her siblings).
Penelope Warland married John Place (1730 - 1800) on 1 or 7 November 1766 at St Andrews, Kinson, Bournemouth, Dorset. Witness to the wedding were Mary Dean and Anna Austen. John Place may have been the son of Conyers Place and Magdalene Glisson although this is not proven and is speculation.
John and Penelope Place had one child:
- Mathew Wasse Place (1776, Canford Magna, Dorset, England - 15 March 1834, Chichester, Sussex, England)
Family of Mathew Wasse Place (1777 - 1834)
Mathew Wase/Wasse Place married Frances Growden Jeffery (6 May 1788 - 10 Dec 1864) on 8 or 26 April 1808 in Lytchett Matravers, Dorset, England. They had the following children:
- Mary Anne Place (1809 - 1864). Mary was single when she married Robert Garton/Gorton Coombe at Wimborne Minster on 27 December 1843. Robert G Coombe was born at Staffordshire in 1818, the son of Thomas Gorton Coombe. Mary's father was recorded as Matthew Wase Place. They had three children (see census details below for more information):
- Robert Coombe (1847 (census) - ?)
- George Augustus Coombe (7 October 1848, Upwell, Norfolk - 28 Jan 1916). Married Mary Elizabeth Pilkington (1846, Blackburn, Lancashire) in 1876 and changed his surname. Later knighted. See below from 1870 and the 1881 census.
- Frances Coombe (? - ?)
- Frances Penelope Place (1811 - 1879). Died in 1879 in Fisherton Lunatic Asylum. Not married and appeared to be disabled - probably mentally. From her notes from Fisherton, she may have been either bi-polar or schizophrenic.
- George Augustus Place (1812 - 1843, Yeovil, Somerset). See below from 1838 for further information.
- Christopher Henry Place (24 May 1814 - 27 Apr 1881). Married Elizabeth Court in 1858. See below for further information.
1838 - George Augustus Place, Wimborne Surgeon, in the news
George Augustus Place was the surgeon at the Wimborne Workhouse from March 1838, after he won a tender, until his resignation in August the same year. According to a news article, he resigned because of conflict between him and the Poor Law Guardians. The article, quoting researcher Margaret Roebuck, states 'It seems the guardians had attempted, illegally, to insist that medical officers should, in the absence of a colleague, attend the colleague's patients'. At an acrimonious meeting held on 30 July 1838, George was accused of not fulfilling his contract and resigned within the week.
In December 1838, after an outbreak of smallpox in the workhouse, letters - later attributed to George A Place - appeared in the Times and Standard newspapers criticising the working of the New Poor Law and citing the poor management of Wimborne's smallpox outbreak as an example. On the day the letter appeared, Wimborne residents held a public meeting to demand that steps be taken to prevent the disease spreading. The Poor Law Commissioners sent their assistant commissioner to investigate and his report exonterated the guardians.
George Augustus Place was not satisified, however, and publicly accused the guardians of negligence. A second report exonerated the guardians and George published an address to the local people, claiming that vital evidence had been omitted, altered or reported incorrectly. George's portrait is held by the Priest's House Museum in Wimborne.
George Place was recorded in the 1841 census at Wimborne Minster. He died in 1843 aged only 31.
1851 census
Mary Ann Coombe (daughter of Mathew Wasse Place) is recorded in the 1851 census at Upwell Isle, Wisbech, Norfolk with her husband Robert Gorton Coombe (born 1817), Mary Ann Coombe (born 1829, possibly Robert's sister or other relative)), Robert G Coombe (born 1847) and George A Coombe (born 1849).
From 1858 - Christopher Henry Place (1814 - 1881)
Christopher Henry Place married much younger Elizabeth Court (16 Oct 1838 - 1915) on 22 May 1858. They had the following children:
- Mathew Henry Place (19 Jul 1858, Melcombe, Dorset (according to 1881 census) - 28 Oct 1943. See below for further information.
- George Augustus Place (19 May 1860 - Oct/Nov 1904). See below for further information.
- Mary Place (24 Jul 1862 - 1916). Married Frederick Williams - no known children.
- Frances Elizabeth Place (15 May 1864 - 1934). Never married.
- John William Place (12 Sep 1866 - 4 Aug 1916). Never married.
- Charles Nicholson Place (1868 - 1923). Married Annie Eliza Jefferis and had four children
- Elsie Place
- Edie Place
- Charles Henry Place
- Lily Augusta Place
- William Edward Place (26 Sec 1870 - 1906). Married Edith Bessie Burden and had one child
- Christopher Warland Place (30 Mar 1872 - 1922). See below for further information.
- Frederick Place (2 Nov 1876 - 1938). Married Louisa Jessie Joyce and had two children:
- Frederick Matthew John Place
- Ronald H Place
- Elizabeth Rawland Place (11 Jun 1878 - 1879). No further details known.
1861 census
Christopher Henry Place and his wife Elizabeth and their first born son Mathew Henry Place were recorded in the 1861 census at St Davids, Exeter, Devon. The census shows a George Augustus Place born 1831 at the same location, this is assumed to be their son with the same name but the wrong date recorded.
1864 - Death of Mary Anne Coombe (nee Place)
Mary Anne Coombe (nee Place)(1809 - 1864), the wife of Robert Gorton Coombe, died in 1864.
From 1870 - life of Sir George Augustus Coombe / Pilkington
The following details are from Debretts Guide to the House of Commons, 1886 and the Wikipedia page for George Augustus Pilkington.
Sir George Augustus Pilkington (7 October 1848, Upwell, Cambridgeshire – 28 January 1916) was an English doctor and Liberal politician. Pilkington was born at Upwell, Cambridgeshire, as George Augustus Coombe, the son of R. G. Coombe a surgeon. He was educated privately and trained for medicine at Guy's Hospital, London. He became MRCS Eng and LSA in 1870. He practiced medicine in Southport from 1870 to 1884 when he was House Surgeon to Southport Infirmary, Medical Officer of the North Meols District, Ormskirk Union, Surgeon to the Royal Naval Artillery Volunteers, and Medical Officer to the Southport Convalescent Hospital and the Southport Infirmary.
See also below from 1884.
1871 census
As noted already, Mary Anne Coombe died in 1864. It is not possible to positively identify Robert or their son Robert (born 1847) or Frances in the 1871 census (yet). Their son George Augustus Coombe (born 1848) is recorded at North Meols, Ormskirk, Lancashire where he is found again in the 1881 census.
Christopher Henry Place (born 1815), his wife Elizabeth (born 1838) and seven others are recorded at Rhinefield, Lymington, Hampshire: Matthew Henry Place (born 1859); George A Place (born 1861); Mary Place (born 1863); Frances E Place (born 1865); John William Place (born 1867); Charles H Place (born 1869); William H Place (born 1871). Not all of these children appear in the 1881 census indicating they had died or left to work elsewhere by then.
1876 - George Augustus Coombe marries Elizabeth Pilkington
George Augustus Coombe married Mary Elizabeth Pilkington, daughter of James Pilkington, former MP for Blackburn, in 1876. He appears to have changed his surname sometime after this date, and possibly after the 1881 census, to Pilkington on the death of his brother-in-law [a brother of Elizabeth].
1881 census
The 1881 census includes the following individuals noted on this page.
- At 10 Caters Gatehouse, Rhinefield, Lymington, Hampshire: Christopher Henry Place (born 1815, Hampreston, Dorset [died April 1881]), a Railway Signalman. His wife Elizabeth Place (born 1840, Weymouth, Dorset). Their children: George Place (born 1861, Weymouth) a Railway Signalman; Mary Place (born 1863, Weymouth); John Place (born 1867, Christchurch, Hampshire), a Railway lamp boy.
- At 241 Lord Street, North Meols, Ormskirk, Lancashire: George A Coombe (born 1849, Upwell, Cambridgeshire), a general practitioner. His wife Mary Elizabeth Coombe (nee Pilkington)(born 1846, Blackburn), their daughter Ethel Flynn (born 1871, Blackburn). A cook, Mary Jones (aged 50) and a housemaid Rebecca Bardsley (aged 22).
- At Cranbourne Villa, 1 Wyndham Road, Christchurch, Hampshire and Dorset: Matthew Henry Place (born 1858, Melcombe, Dorset), a single Railway Clerk.
From 1882 - George Augustus Place (1860 - 1904)
George Augustus Place (1860 - 1904), the second son of Christopher Henry Place and Elizabeth (nee Court), married Elizabeth Kircher (21 Feb 1857 - 23 Mar 1944) on 18 April 1882. They had the following children:
- Kate Ethel Place (1882 - 1924). No further details known.
- Rosina Place (24 Oct 1884 - 1 Oct 1981). Married Alfred Light (24 Feb 1878 - 13 May 1924) in 1906. They had the following children:
- Leslie Charles Light (25 Sep 1907 - ?), married Doris Margaret Young (3 Aug 1012 - 15 Sep 1990) and had two daughters
- Bertrum George Augustus Light (25 Nov 1908 - Nov 1986), married Agnes and had three children
- Rosina Winifred Florence Light (1 Mar 1910 - 22 Mar 1991), married Arthur Duly
- Reginald Charles Light (7 Aug 1912 - 25 Mar 1988), married Emily Harrison and had two children
- Hilda Violet Light (24 Jun 1913 - ?), married Frank Albert Newell and had two children
- Cyril Harold Light (27 Mar 1920 - ?), married Florence Ings and had two daughters
- Leonard James Light (29 Dec 1923 - ?), married Margaret and had three daughters
- Florence Place (Mar 1886 - 2 Apr 1959). No further details known.
- William Place (1888 - ?). Married Alice (? - 1933) then Minnie in 1942. Had two twin children who were stillborn.
- Alfred Richard Wasse Place (3 Feb 1890 - 25 Nov 1966). Married Ethel Kate Eastman (15 May 1890 - 1936) in 1913, and then Emily Mary Annie Coombs (8 Aug 1890 - Jan 1972) in 1937. They had the following children:
- Marjorie Ellen Place (22 Apr 1914 - ?)
- Harold Alfred Place (15 Nov 1915 - Jan 1984)
- Maude Elizabeth Jane Place (2 Apr 1891 - 31 Jan 1974). Married Daniel Donnelly in 1911, and then re-married. They had the following children:
- Kathleen Donnelly (10 Aug 1911 - 10 Apr 1941), married? and had one daughter
- Patrick Donnelly (13 Jul 1920 - 1970), married Pearl Stichcomb and had four children
- Betty Pauline Donnelly (11 Jul 1927 - ?), married Arthur Reuben Collings and had four children
- Elsie May Place (5 Dec 1894 - 14 Jul 1977). Married Sidney Frank Carter (6 Jul 1898 - 7 Sep 1979) on 19 Nov 1921. They had three children:
- Joy May Carter (19 Feb 1923 - ?), married Gordon Andrews (7 Aug 1921 - 19 Feb 1985) and had son sons
- Ruth Lilian Carter (24 Jul 1926 - ?), married Henry John Mervyn Griffiths (19 May 1922 - 8 Jan 1981) and had two children
- Ronald Frank Carter (12 Mar 1928 - Aug 1928)
- Arthur George Place (1896 - 14 Jun 1970). Married Martha Amelia Courage. They had the following children:
- Violet Place
- Ronald Arthur Place (1920 - 22 Jun 1970)
- Jack Place, married Margaret
- Eva Lily Place (1896 - Jul 1926). Married Leslie Prouting. They had one child:
- Marjorie Lilian Prouting (22 Nov 1922 - ?), married Kevin Harris and had 5 children
- Kathlene Place (1898 - 9 Feb 1976). Married J Cyril Barnes in 1922, and then Charles Franklin. They had one child:
- Kathleen Myrtle Barnes, married Gordon Spencer Hughes and had four children.
From 1884 - Life (and death) of George Augustus Coombe / Pilkington (continued)
According to the same Debretts guide and Wikipedia page published above, Pilkington was Mayor of Southport from 1884 to 1885. In 1885, he was elected Member of Parliament for Southport but lost the seat in 1886. He was a councillor and alderman on Lancashire County Council, Deputy Lieutenant, J.P., and Honorary Colonel of the 3rd Liverpool Volunteer Regiment until October 1902. Pilkington was knighted in 1893. He won the seat at Southport again in a by-election in 1899, but lost it again at the 1900 general election. He was High Sheriff of Lancashire in 1911.
Sir George Augustus Pilkington died on 28 January 1916.
From 1886 - Family of Mathew Henry Place
Mathew Henry Place (1858 - 1943), the eldest son of Christopher Henry Place and Elizabeth (nee Court), married twice. The name of his first wife is unknown. His second wife was Elizabeth Ballam, whom he married in January 1886 in Lambeth, London. They had three children:
- Emily Violet Wassie Marie Place (Oct 1886 - 24 Dec 1937)
- Mathew Henry Place (1 Jul 1888 - ?)
- George Alfred Place (Dec 1891 - Sep 1921)
No other details are known.
1891 census
George Augustus Coombe had changed his surname before 1891. He is recorded, with his wife Elizabeth, at North Meols in the 1891 census as George Pilkington.
Matthew Henry Place and his wife Elizabeth ('Lizzie'), as well as their children Emily Violet Marie Place (born 1886) and Matthew Henry Place (born 1888) but not George (not yet born) are recorded in the 1891 census at Christchurch, Hampshire.
Christopher Warland Place (born 1872) is recorded at Brockenhust, Lymington, Hampshire.
From 1899 - Christopher Warland Place (1872 - 1922)
Christopher Warland Place (1872 - 1922), the eighth child of Christopher Henry Place and Elizabeth (nee Court), married Elizabeth Keeping (1862 - 1952) at Lymington on 22 September 1899. They had the following children:
- (Possibly) Edith Joan Place (1899, Lymington - ?). Assumed child based on location and dates, birth record needs to be sighted for confirmation.
- Christopher Henry Ratcliffe Place (11 May 1901, Lymington - 1929). Married Gladys King (1901 - ?) before 1927. They had the following child:
- Christopher William Place (21 Mar 1927 - ?)
- John Charles Place (4 Dec 1903, Lymington - 1955). Married Louisa Ellen Tidridge (1902 - 1981). They had the following children:
- Edward Place (1922 - ?), married Joyce
- Jack Place (17 Mar 1924 - ?), married Una Ingram and had two children
- Gwendoline Yvonne Place (29 Jun 1926 - ?), married Maurice Raggett (1928 - ?) and had two sons
- Ronald Dennis Place (9 Aug 1928 - ?), married Eileen Hurr and later Barbara Tullett, and had three children.
Page created 13 July 2014, updated 26 June 2022 (updates to life of George Augustus Combe/Pilkington) and layout/formatting. Copyright © Andrew Warland. (andrewwarland(at)gmail.com)